Learning From the Collapse of Earlier Societies

by admin on March 10, 2010

Peak Moment 112: According to Professor Guy Prouty, every civilization rises, evolves, and then collapses to a simpler structure — and this will include our own. Comparing America with the Western Roman Empire, Prouty notes the over-reach of our military, the unsustainability of capitalism, peak oil, and climate change. And, this time, we may see a global collapse. Transitioning to a simpler society will require us to change behavior and consciousness: decrease energy, get out of debt, decentralize, de-consume, grow our own food, build community, see ourselves as connected to the planet. Collapse is not the end, he says. It’s part of a natural cycle.

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wilsparky

The idealism of the first speaker is touching but naive. If collapse of society occurs then the strong (violent and muscular/heavily armed and organised) will take control. Only there will not be the structures of social justice which we all have access to at the moment. Islamic gangs will try to impose their will. Black power gangs will try to excert their will. White power gangs will do likewise.
peakmoment

I think we may see the entire range of human behaviors, from violence to compassion. It will depend, perhaps, on the speed of collapse. James Howard Kunstler calls this "The Long Emergency" and envisions a gradual, ongoing decline -- as we now see around us.
peakmoment

Two writers addressing our response to collapse with depth are Richard Heinberg: "How Do You Like the Collapse So Far?" on GlobalPublicMedia, and Carolyn Baker at CarolynBaker -d0t- net.
BlackOakMedia

Great video!
postpeakman

Many people who own properties have guns, either for protection, hunting, or shooting pests.

Anybody who thinks they can make a living by robbing ranchers and farmers will not last long.

The sooner we, as individuals and as a society, plan for the future, the less of a doomer descent scenario we will have to live through.
relaxpeace

As a COOL-DRY period began (even NASA admits it now: 5/1/08) and oil ends, after collapse, only peaceable mutual-aid communities survive, as happened in PEACEFUL 99.98% of humankind history, because cortisol-aggression addiction is self-destructive, brain dissolving.
There are no war scenes in rock-paintings until very recently.
Prepare kids for AUTARKY!
PsyogiBottoms

Yes... Bush, Condi, Pelosi, Cheney = CANCERS.

Cut them out, heal the wound. They need to be destroyed or they will come back again somewhere else.
thomasmatus

Legend attributes date 480 C.E. (4 yrs after 476 fall of Western Empire) to the birth of Benedict of Nursia, supposed author of the common Rule of western monastics. The "Benedictine Centuries" culminate in the 10th, when the papacy & ecclesiastical structures collapsed (an 18-yr-old boy elected pope...). Cluny stepped in with long-lived & saintly abbots & teachers. Monasteries kept culture, offered space for women as preachers & scholars, exercising leadership etc. Hope: a new monasticism.
doctordude

great videos!
dnHooligan

perfectly said.
jbryant13

Overpopulation is a myth perpetuated by the NWO elite (Rockefeller's etc).

David Rockefeller speaks about population control

watch?v=NEJxr1HxwuE

The problem is not a shortage of food or resources - the problem is control & distribution.

Google "Kissinger Report" or " National Security Study Memorandum 200 (NSSM-200)" - Population control has been official US policy since 1974, targeting 13 countries to exploit their resources.

POPULATION REDUCTION MUST WATCH

watch?v=7awAo6CA5i4
Mahoivlich

If you have more people than food you have overpopulation. If you have a kid when you know you cannot feed it well.....
Soulfree2008

Well, living anywhere Near the way we do now, overpopulation is a Big Deal! Now if we were to step back a little, use earth friendly energy and housing, and "grow" food properly and organically, then yeah we could sustain the population...
faszika

sounds good but i need my internet :(
BeanGene

Better off! Crisis, panic, fights for survival and starvation - this is better off! It is Finaccial, Political, Social and possible Cultural collapes. Only a dissillusioned intellectual would say military dictatorship and gulags will be a future improvement - How very American life in TV land, it will be like "Little House on the Parie" Soviet style.
peakmoment

Yes, all of these things may happen and are happening, in societies of every type. It may happen in the U.S. It's possible that a benevolent dictator might get positive actions done more efficiently than what we struggle with in American politics, where legislators are bought and paid for by the moneyed elite, who have their own agenda.

It's sure gonna be interesting.
mrzack888

bullshit, this guy is bullshit. humanity should conquer the stars, not take a fucking 100 steps backwards. nobody likes going back to camping.
jedimasterkyle

I am very proud of my twin brother to stand up and inform people of what may be. How can we conquer the stars if we can't even conquer ourselves?
EliyahMessageTime

All this video is attempting to do is find 'justification' for population reduction. This type of mindset is one that wants an elite ruling the world as gods, while the left overs of the population in the world are relearning what fire is. Bible teaches this too.

Over population is simply not true. HOWEVER, I agree with population reduction anyway. Get rid of the brown races, all of whom seem to do nothing but have more babies. The poorest nations burdening the Chosen Race (1 Peter 2:9).
activedentalfloss

Or maybe just get rid of all the fatarse greedy whites who hog all the resources.
EliyahMessageTime

@activedentalfloss

Since White people make up around 8% of the world population, I think it is an ignorant reprobate that would think WE are the ones consuming all the resources. Like I say, get rid of the brown races, or a large portion of them, save a few for slaves, and you have the problem solved. LOL
activedentalfloss

Who the fuck is "WE"? You're nothing to me, I don't share your views & I was highlighting the stupidity of your comments. Linking population percentages to consumption is a fallacy, as the US consists of 4.5% of the worlds population, yet consumes 25% of the oil. You're either inadequate or just lazy if you base your superiority over others purely on your skin colour. If it's about culling the unproductive, maybe humanity should start with you. kindly take your bible and shove it up your arse.
EliyahMessageTime

The ruling WHITE, that is who "WE" are, any 3rd grader could have understood that from my first sentence. The TARES that pretend to be true whites, that have this love all, all are equal, idiocy will be rooted out soon enough. Matt 13
What is going to happen is WE are going to shove the ACTUAL teachings and the ACTUAL truth it holds down YOUR THROAT, and if you chock to death on it, well, the world will be a CLEANER place without the trash of ESAU prick minds as yours. Luke 19:27
activedentalfloss

ROFL, just as I thought, you are a sad, inadequate middle aged wanker. It's amusing how you've changed your pitch from pseudo-intellectual to rampant hate filled cretin in the space of one post. And whats with the bible qoutes? Jesus was supposedly from the middle east so he was BROWN. Keep digging that hole for yourself you moron. PS, 'choke' is the correct spelling you are looking for, any 3rd grader would know that. Too bad you never completed your education.
taurausbull

excellent thoughts but the brown people are multiplying like pigs

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